The whole thing about "the secret" boils down to "focus", the rest is a lot of filler. If you train yourself to be truly observant and rid your self of negativity much can come of it.

If you determine you want to find money, picture yourself doing it and be positive about it, it will happen, but not for the reasons way touted in the book/movie.
For example if you make yourself open to the idea of finding a windfall of cash, you will be openly looking for it all around you, following your instincts instead of mindlessly trudging about like most of humanity does.

This being observant and expectant makes you look harder at your surroundings and seeing the money, whether it be a fiver blowing across the parking lot, an antique by the curb, or a early first edition Steven King at a charity shop.

I use it all the time, I picture my self physically hail and hearty*, seeing opportunity all about*. Just yesterday I was riding by a charity shop and it called out "Tinker you old Sod, you haven't been in in a while, cash alert!" So I trotted in and noticed they had all the cutlery sorted into old file cabinets, each drawer labeled "Stainless", "silverplate", "Serving" etc... A quick sort through and I found $25.00 of Sterling spoons ( Sterling yesterday was $18.00 per 0z), I also spotted a couple of first edition books for a dollar I can sell for five on the racks I'll pick up today.


* Your mind will bug you to take the bike instead of the car and not eat the last eclair, make you look about more. Eventually you do healthy things and automatically look for opportunities without even giving it a thought.

I was in a posh Oxfam charity shop this afternoon which I didn't actually realise was one until I saw the sign. Many of the clothes in there are actually new and designed for Oxfam while others are Jo Wood's cast offs and sold at much higher prices than normal. Which scares me because I'm worried that the more run of the mill charity shops will start putting up their prices because they think they can get away with it.

What happened to the down at heel charity shops that paid peppercorn rents as long as they vacated the premises when a proper business moved in and sold everything from 20p to £1 depending on quality (up to £3 in today's money) and didn't bother with interior design? The new style shops had better realise they still smell inside because of what's brought in because one smelly item can contaminate a whole bag full of clothes and the whiff of laundry powder is still left on clothes brought in because the doners use too much powder usually the cheap and nasty stuff.

Tinker

Good post

The Secret

Ive heard several people talk about this book in the last year.

My thoughts are: How much money are they making out of this I wonder?

also, my inclination is to think its quite annoying.

If we spend lots of lots of time thinking about ourselves, and focusing 'our' lives, then because "like attracts like" apparently, we can shape our destiny and get what 'we' want...by thinking about what we want, and so on..

I think humans need to have "some" mastery over their own minds, but part of our mastery involves an acceptance of an utter lack of mastery over ourselves also. To be in control of our own destiny completely is not real.

I find this 'secret' idea, patronizing and also pervasive in peoples thinking.

I personally think its bullshit. I probably havent done a very good job of explaining why but I cant be arsed just yet.

If your going to make a post about 'the secret' Jetset Jason why dont you also explain why you have posted it. Do you find it of value and why? You seem to throw a lot of random posts into the forum but rarely form an actual opinion.

please convince me otherwise..

happy saturday eve

BB

The antidote to this book is 'Smile or Die' by Barbara Ehrenreich or it could be vice versa in the minds of my nutty friend who would alwasy go on about having a positive mental attitude.

the belly button wrote:
The Secret

Ive heard several people talk about this book in the last year.

My thoughts are: How much money are they making out of this I wonder?

also, my inclination is to think its quite annoying.

If we spend lots of lots of time thinking about ourselves, and focusing 'our' lives, then because "like attracts like" apparently, we can shape our destiny and get what 'we' want...by thinking about what we want, and so on..


The focus on thinking is just the start. You can think all you want about something,
but unless you take some sort of action nowt will come of it. Eg. if you want to lose 30lbs, thinking about how you can do it might put possible options in your head to get started, such as taking the stairs instead of the elevator, walking to work etc.
But if you don't put any of the thinking into motion it won't happen.




I think humans need to have "some" mastery over their own minds, but part of our mastery involves an acceptance of an utter lack of mastery over ourselves also. To be in control of our own destiny completely is not real.


The point is very valid though that we make a great deal of our own misery through our own actions. It takes great willpower to invoke change in our lives, the secret basically uses a form of self hypnosis to this end to program oneself toward a goal.



I find this 'secret' idea, patronizing and also pervasive in peoples thinking.
I personally think its bullshit. I probably havent done a very good job of explaining why but I cant be arsed just yet.


Contrary to what people say, they actually hate simple truths. The magic part they blather on about is in my opinion as I said before " filler",used because the basic idea is so simple nobody would buy it without the "Mystery".



If your going to make a post about 'the secret' Jetset Jason why dont you also explain why you have posted it. Do you find it of value and why? You seem to throw a lot of random posts into the forum but rarely form an actual opinion.

please convince me otherwise..

happy saturday eve

BB

Jetset is simply shy and retiring ;~)

Tinker Dill wrote:


Jetset is simply shy and retiring ;~)


yeah right!


A quote grabbed of the net!

In 2009, Ehrenreich published Bright-Sided: How The Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America[3] as a response to "positive thinking" books, like The Secret, that teach "if I just change my thoughts, I could have it all".[4] She worried this was delusional or even dangerous[2] because it avoided dealing with the real sources behind problems.[5] It encouraged "victim-blaming, political complacency, and a culture-wide flight from realism" by suggesting failure is the result of not trying "hard enough" or believing "firmly enough in the inevitability of your success". Those who were "disappointed, resentful, or downcast" were 'victims' or 'whiners'.[2] Ehrenreich advocated "not negative thinking or despair" but "realism, checking out what’s really there and figuring out how to change it".[4]


I say

Get Real


BB
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the belly button wrote:

If we spend lots of lots of time thinking about ourselves, and focusing 'our' lives, then because "like attracts like" apparently, we can shape our destiny and get what 'we' want...by thinking about what we want, and so on..

I think humans need to have "some" mastery over their own minds, but part of our mastery involves an acceptance of an utter lack of mastery over ourselves also. To be in control of our own destiny completely is not real.

We're supposed to not just focus on what we want on our wish list but not think about what we don't want which is pretty hard work especially as many of us have been taught to make decisions by first eliminating the negatives and then weighing up the pros and cons of the alternatives on the short list.

If your going to make a post about 'the secret' Jetset Jason why dont you also explain why you have posted it. Do you find it of value and why? You seem to throw a lot of random posts into the forum but rarely form an actual opinion.


Jason's posts often contradict each other as they betray where he is at that exact moment not his overall world view or core beliefs. Sometimes I think he does it to wind you up.

the belly button wrote:
Tinker Dill wrote:


Jetset is simply shy and retiring ;~)


yeah right!


A quote grabbed of the net!

In 2009, Ehrenreich published Bright-Sided: How The Relentless Promotion of Positive Thinking Has Undermined America[3] as a response to "positive thinking" books, like The Secret, that teach "if I just change my thoughts, I could have it all".[4] She worried this was delusional or even dangerous[2] because it avoided dealing with the real sources behind problems.[5] It encouraged "victim-blaming, political complacency, and a culture-wide flight from realism" by suggesting failure is the result of not trying "hard enough" or believing "firmly enough in the inevitability of your success". Those who were "disappointed, resentful, or downcast" were 'victims' or 'whiners'.[2] Ehrenreich advocated "not negative thinking or despair" but "realism, checking out what’s really there and figuring out how to change it".[4]


I say

Get Real


BB
X

Oops, we must have posted similar things at the same time.